offers for one year in Phoenix

**IMPORTANT**
These offers are for one year in Phoenix. If you want to make a trade for any of these items listed below, PLEASE MAKE ME AN OFFER FOR THE ONE YOU WANT! It will be very easy for me to choose which of the below items to take if my next trade is already lined up! Thanks - Kyle.
********** BE CREATIVE! I'm not holding out for any offer in particular and I don't expect to get a house for one year's worth of rent in Phoenix. However, my offer still stands that I will trade one year in Phoenix for a REAL General Lee - which I'm sure we can all agree will be the best intermediate trade item of all time. Ever. **********
Send your trade offer to: oneredpaperclip@gmail.com or let me know which one you think I should take!
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THE OFFERS
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a year of rent in Phoenix + return airfare + tickets to a Arizona Diamondbacks game i'll will offer you an oldtimer mobilehome in The Netherlands.Vriendelijke groet. Wow. Look at this thing! I've never even BEEN in an old-timer mobile home before. Imagine the summer you could have in a thing like that! -- Do you want "one old-timer mobile home"? If you do, send your offer to oneredpaperclip@gmail.com
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one summer in Hollywood
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Love the site - you must be havin a blast! I am leaving for a 3 month trip back to my hometown of London, England and am prepared to offer the following: One bedroom in a stunning apartment in Hollywood, CA for 4 months rent free. Fully furnished including wet bar, full size pro poker table, 50 inch plasma TV, surround sound system, wireless internet, suede couch that seats 5, beautiful leather queen bed, LCD TV in master bedroom. Balcony overlooking a large designer shaped pool with palm trees. Apartment is located in secure unit. Summer is comin and there is nowhere better to be! LA will be thumpin and the pad is conveniently located within walking distance of major nightlife including Sky Bar, Standard and Shelter nightclubs. Now I know this is not quite enough so there is a kicker!! Also with the apartment is a car. A PORSCHE CONVERTIBLE to be exact! This will be available for the lucky recipient to enjoy as his or her pleasure. * Great condition inside and out – no scratches, dents, dings or rust! * Sports Package throughout car – including sports steering wheel and Porsche turbo gear stick! * 18in Porsche Turbo alloy wheels This is a fun car! Of course before I leave I will stock the place with everything you might need. I am leaving around April 22nd (tbc) so time is ticking. Good luck with whatever decision you make. You will get the house - the question is when, not if! - Marc Now THIS is what I call a summer package. Nice. It's going to be very hard not to just take this offer and drive around in the Porsche all summer! -- Do you want "one summer in Hollywood"? If you do, send in your offer for One Summer in Hollywood to oneredpaperclip@gmail.com
********** one house plan
Alright Kyle, here's my offer.You want a house, right? Well, what do you know, I happen to design custom homes. I work in an architecture office here in Phoenix, and am willing to put together a set of architectural plans (sans stamp, being that I'm not registered yet) and work with you to create the home of your dreams. All for a year in phoenix. What do you say? - Lina
Sounds like a plan! Not sure about how the "stamp-factor" alters the viability of this plan, but let's see what the people say... -- Do you want "one house plan?" If you do, send in your offer for One House Plan to oneredpaperclip@gmail.com
********** one 30-second TV commercial
Yo Kyle I work at a video post house in St Louis Mo. I will trade the latest item for a full blown 30 sec television commercial. Aprox value $8000 David sextro - www.newworldpost.com
Wow! This is very cool. A full-on commercial. You never know - this could be the next "WAAAAAAZUP!" -- Do you want a 30 second TV commerical? If you do, send in your offer for one 30-second TV commercial to oneredpaperclip@gmail.com ********** Rachel's 24 hour lap-a-thon
Hello, this is Rachel. I currently work for a gentlemen's club in Roppingi, Tokyo, Japan where I earn my living by stripping. We make money out of bottles of champagne that we open or private dances we perform for our customers. Private dance consists of topless dance in privacy with the restriction of strictly no physical touch allowed from clients' side. Or you will be kicked out of the club and banned for good. This private dance costs 7,000yen (apx. $60) for 5min session and it is renewable. So I came up with the idea of how much it would cost for me to perform a 24hr consecutive private dance session. Quite simply, an hour can hold 12 sessions multiplied by 24 makes it 288 sessions times 60 is $17,280. I don't know how much an year rent in Phoenix is worth but I thought someone might be interested in trading for it. What do you think? Have a great day and hope to hear from you soon!! Best regards, Rachel. Hey Rachel, I can honestly say that I've never partook in a lap dance before, and my girlfiend would probably frown on the idea. But you know what? I'm sure there's somebody out there who'd be willing to make an offer for a 24 hour lap-a-thon from you. -- Do you want a 24 hour lap dance from Rachel? If you do, send in your offer for Rachel's 24 hour lap-a-thon to oneredpaperclip@gmail.com
********** Jay's Hot Ride
LOWDOWN RAINLOW
Yo i dunno about your whole crazy adventure, but i got a 1991 chevy blazer with major modifications on it, i attached a pics or two , i think im the first offer . WHAT DO I GOT TO LOSE!!
Jay - Phoenix Yo Jay. Not much. -- Do you want Jay's hot ride? If you do, send in your offer for Jay's Great Gray Lowrider to oneredpaperclip@gmail.com

185 comments:

Anonymous said...

Jays Hot Ride looks like a hack job (broken window, PRIMER with cheeze body work, cheap lowering job). The stripper only wishes she's worth $17,000 for 24 hours. Pretty Woman didn't even get that much for 2 day's worth of work. The tv time doesn't seem like a good deal either, because it doesn't actually cover advertising time on television, it's just a 30 second video clip for you on a dvd. It has nothing to do with the costs of putting that commercial on-air. The next successful offer needs to be BIGGER than the previous upgrades, like a big sailboat, or a time-share in florida. Keep the offers coming!
-LR

Dirk said...

that's not a very hot ride at all

Anonymous said...

Twenty-four hours of notouching sexy dancing? That's seems like a pretty good way to drive a person crazy.

J Mine said...

Has anyone ever read Alvin's Swap Shop, by Clifford B. Hicks, (Illustrated by Bill Sokol)? The story is very similar to "one red paperclip" though his turns into an adventure in the end. Alvin starts with an ant in a tube that he trades for something, that he then trades for something else, etc.

Very entertaining for kids, and still one of my favorites from when I was a kid.

Conrado said...

I hope your girlfriend is not insecure - the whole trading up/bigger better deal mindset could be rough on a relationship!

Anonymous said...

I think the stripper ought to post pics f herself, or better yet, video of her getting her grove on - so we can make an informed decision on her worth.

lilty said...

a 24-hour lap dance sounds incredibly boring.

Anonymous said...

The irony is that a no-touching, topless only lapdancer is offering a CANADIAN a dance. Canadian lapdances make other countries' lap dances look like Sunday school.

Anonymous said...

I for one as a canadian am going to have to agree with that lapdance comment

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't a stripper with a "grove" on be hard to see?

Anonymous said...

I live in Tokyo as well. As I have never been to her particular place, I have had several lap dances and other "recreational activities" in this city.

I can safely say that it would not be like a lap dance in Canada. Let you imagination run wild (but not TOO wild).

Hunty said...

I think these three offers need to join forces, and make a 30-second commercial advertising a 24-hour lapdance in the back of a pimped Blazer!

DDL said...

The four months with the Porsche sounds fun.. ;)

rage_against_the_caffeine said...

So far i'd have to say four months in hollywood is your best offer by far but nothing here is as good as the year rent free in pheonix. Keep holding out for something bigger and better.

Anonymous said...

You gotta be joking me - out of all these offers a summer in Hollywood is easily the best. LA women are hot hot hot.

Anonymous said...

The Hollywood deal is the best. To rent a sports car like that for 4 months easily exceeds the rent in Phoenix http://www.exoticcarrentalsphoenix.com/porscheboxstersroadster.html

Secondly the rent in Hollywood is well , lets just say not cheap regardless where.

So monoterily this deal is worth some serious coin.

Stephen said...

There doesn't seem to be a winner yet. Even though the LA place seems 3x as cool as the house in Phx you're only getting it for 1/3 of the time. Hold off until you get something bigger AND better.

ninwest said...

the la deal is by far worth more than the year in az...its hell in az and heaven in la.... take the la 4 months + sports car

Kat said...

Yeah, but have any of you actually ever BEEN to Phoenix? I wouldn't live there for a year if somebody paid me. Trade up to Hollywood.

lostboy said...

Let's not get carried away here. The Hollywood offer is for 3 months, not 4.

Rachel's offer is creative but doesn't seem well thought out. Is she even capable of dancing for 24 hours non-stop? Is anyone? And as others have pointed out, the excitement of a lap dance has a pretty short half-life.

Maybe she could revise the offer to be something like 24 hours' companionship with lap-dancing on demand in any appropriately safe/private environment, with clear rules for conduct spelled out as part of the offer? But really, short of an armed escort, the whole notion raises such safety issues for Rachel that I don't think it's viable in any event. Poor girl must really want to move to Phoenix...

Do we even need to comment on Jay's offer? What he has to lose is his credibility.

Anonymous said...

hey man dont even fall for that used up low rider job and hooker mean strippers are cheap and not worth losing the girl over hold out for the house you were wanting to get in the first place.

Anonymous said...

I like the bong in the corner of the picture of the hollywood apartment.

Anonymous said...

so far the hollywood summer home is your best offer however if you give it a chance the house plans might get you a builder to build it for you.

Anonymous said...

No trades good enough yet.....hold out....I feel a big one coming....Good Luck Jody, great trade. A once in a lifetime deal.
The GMA interview will bring bigger things to come.....just wait & see.............
James McCormack

Anonymous said...

take the house plan....it IS what you were trying to get in the first place

Chino said...

Well... The Hollywood house & car is amazing! However, 3 months v.s. a whole year? That's a tough decision. I say hold out just a little bit longer.

Anonymous said...

Been to Phoenix...Hollywood + Porche is your better bet with house plans as number 2. All others are below par. Great imagination and gumption on your part. Good luck.

Chloe said...

what about a boat? hmmmmm if someone has a boat, and i mean a really nice boat, that could be a perspective trade...

Anonymous said...

I would choose either the house plan or summer in CA. Be sure to check out the logistics of not having a stamp. The commercial is interesting, and the ride....sorry dude, I have seen better.

Anonymous said...

Who would trade for a stripper sight unseen??? Not me!!

Nurse_2007 said...

Have the woman with the house plan add a piece of land, city lot or something like that to the deal, now that would be a trade up!

Anonymous said...

I say go with the hollywood house. Why? Because Both houses have a limited rent time meaning your gunna have to pack up and leave eventually. Meaning youll have to find another job etc But 3 months you could take a 3 month holiday! ANd what a holiday!

Anonymous said...

Interesting story there Mr. MacDonald. A friend just sent me a link to a newspaper. I hope that you get what you are looking for. It seemed rather a joke when you started off w/ a red paperclip. I am surpirsed you have come as far as you did!

Have fun trading!

Anonymous said...

I got a buddy that wants to take a shot in Hollywood to be a talent actor (I think he's seen one too many episodes of Entourage) but he seems pretty intent on moving out there ASAP - he's currently living in a 1BR in one of Trump's buildings in Manhattan - it is a mint, I am going to see if he is interested in a summer trade.

-FBG_Alias

Dustin said...

Most house plans are available at no cost from a reputable builder if your building a house with them. No need to trade a year of living for the house plan.

Kevin said...

HI Jay from Toronto, I think you are on a role... The LA set up sounds good but I think something bigger is coming your way, hang tight.. forget the stripper, you seen one you have seen them all.. and the no touching thing is just a big tease.

Anonymous said...

You should trade this one year in phoenix for multiple things so that you could get more offers that can build on each other, thus making it easier for you to trade to your goal of a house.

Anonymous said...

I agree that the Summer in Hollywood sounds good. But will you have enough time to trade again before april 22? Something to think about at least. Perhaps a multiple level trade system is required. Could you recieve offers for the summer in hollywood and base your decision on those offers. I dont mean extend the scope of your trade scheme to an awkward size but it is something worth considering.

Amy, TX said...

So far, the best offer is the current one you hold in your hand! You can download a house plan from the web for free. The 91 Blazer looks like it's worth just as much as that red paper clip, and that private dancer...how low is she willing to go? You should let the lap dancer live at the house in AZ for the free year, in return, you open the AZ house as a business for private lap sessions, and you make 100% profit. You get paid, and she has a roof over her head. Oh and you can pimp around in that 91 blazer by trading that owner with a year of free lap dances!

Nuldos said...

Hi guys...

I´m from Brazil... Really dont know how much cost a year rent, but think the only thing worse is the summer at Hollywood....

But the time is tiking, and you can lose the trade because of time...

Anonymous said...

I would honestly take the Hollywood Apartment, since it give me 3 months headstart to drive this car to mexico, or even the south most tip of chile. Heck, with 3 months, I can move these lovely sofa, Plasma TV, the Porche to some place the owner would never found.

Anonymous said...

Go to Hollywood - opportunites may come up and next thing you know you're in the movies and can afford your own home.

Anonymous said...

Hold out man. Between 3 and 4 months (not clear from the post) in Hollywood IS better than a year (or years) in Phoenix, hands down. However, keep thinking bigger. I see a cruise in your future for some reason...I must have been hypnotized by George and his many body piercings.

Anonymous said...

Without a doubt, my advice would be to take the Summer in California. Hope that you end up with your own house! :)

Tony P. said...

The summer in Hollywood sounds great, but note that it offers "one bedroom in a stunning apartment" -- not the whole apartment. Sounds like a roommate situation, which could be good or bad depending on the other roommates but is obviously worth much less than an entire apartment. Also, two of the three months offered are actually spring, not summer months. I know I'm being picky but I'm a lawyer. I'll be watching the site and if I see anything that I really want, I'd be prepared to offer representation in one criminal or civil case in California. Love the site!

Anonymous said...

Not sure what planet Dustin lives on, but on this planet, there is NO architect that offers free custom-designed house plans. In fact, there is no architect that would offer standard, cookie-cutter house plans for free either; they can actually charge over and over again for the exact same design. Most likely a 'reputable builder' would have a set of plans before he begins building a house, but those plans are certainly not 'no cost'; they are very much a part of the total price. Or, it depends how you look at it; maybe they would give you a roof for free, but the walls to hold it up will cost you 500,000!! A custom-designed house by a professional architect would be a pretty valuable item.
jj

Anonymous said...

I'll give you a house boat!
It's in the washington dc area right on the potomac! Sent you an email....

Anonymous said...

Go for the Hollywood + Porche, good trade up on that one... Ave it Large...Best of Luck Nick UK

Anonymous said...

I'd definately say a no on the stripper and the car, and probly the commercial. LA seems good, especially the car. The house plans, well I just don't know on them.

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Granby au Québec
Je te souhaite vraiemant de réussir.
Lache pas je te suporte et si je trouve uen échange pour la maison je vous le dis.

IdahoNikki said...

Nice idea! Hope the recent media coverage helps get you there!

Mr. Mister said...

I suggest the summer in Hollywood. Porches are awesome

A RED PAPERCLIPPER said...

I think the Hollywood offer is the best offer you've got, with the house as second, but far behind. However, if you actually get the house built as part of the trade, it pulls WAY out in front.

Anonymous said...

Hey, I wish I'd have heard about this earlier, I would have traded if you were still under the $1000 mark, but too late now; I don't have anything worth that much! Anyway, the stay in LA is deffinately the best so far. But is it three months or four? He says, "three month vacation," but, "four months rent free." The house plans seem like a bad idea, because you would have to trade them for something else, you couldn't use them to build the house.

crikpaintball said...

This is a great thing that you're doing but you're making life rough on the rest of us. After reading your website my wife handed me a rubber band and said "get me something nice".

Ant Clayton said...

WOOOAAAHHH that Hollywood place looks soooo awesome! a whole summer of chilling with a Porsche! I'd take it and cash in there!!

Well done Kyle, excellent work here. Best wishes,

Ant.

Anonymous said...

Get the Summer in hollywood. The car is better, the women are hotter, a 30 sec commercial is worthless, and house plans aren't good if you don't have anyone to build it:)

Anonymous said...

I don't think the right offer has been made yet...better to wait a bit longer.

by the way, great site great idea! you have truly brought decent fun back to the internet!

much luv <3 Sehr, Ohio

Marv said...

Kyle, you are one amazing young man with a vision and the guts to follow it through. As I read your story, I was truly amazed by the inter-actions you encountered on your treks. I sincerely hope, as one mentioned in another comment, that your girl friend is not insecure and shares your vision. Keep at it. Good things come to those who wait.
Marv (An ole cornhusker now liviig in Rep de Panama)

Anonymous said...

dont take the house plan. that's a lame offer. You can get them free and no builder will trade a house plan for the building of it. what would they have to gain from the houseplan you give them to build for you? It just doesnt' make sense. The LA place (car usage alone) is your best bet money wise. Hope you get an awesome offer from your articles/news appearances.

Anonymous said...

what happens if ya total the porsche?

Anonymous said...

Will you consider leaving the shores of North America if the trade is right?

Anonymous said...

Make sure you know what people will trade for the trade you want to do. In other words, plan ahead. It doesn't matter what this is, a lap dance, a house, whatever. The important thing is what people will be willing to trade for it. If somebody emails you to say, for instance, that they'd be interested in the house plans, and will give you something substantial for them...trade for those.

Anonymous said...

Everyone's all, "dude, Hollywood, holy expletive," but it kinda has a time limit. What if it's the next item, and then nobody offers for it, and the date passes? It'd be great, if, like it says up top, someone offered for it beforehand, but otherwise, it's too big a risk.

Anonymous said...

This is the wackiest thing I have ever read on the internet! And to tell you the truth, it has been the only thing that has made me genuinely smile inside. I am impressed with the whole thing, you go man. The world needs more men like you; ingenius, witty, and patient. Your woman is a lucky gal. To both of you, good luck. I live in Tucson, you don't want to come here.

conniexan said...

unbelievable!
interesting barter trade..
Which Island you wanna live on with ur dream house?

John said...

i say wow this is amazing... im from vancouver and i just heard about this on a commercial on the news about trading a red paper clip for a house.... and i was like wow thats a whole lot of crap... and then i go google it and go wow.......... thats pretty cool.... i wish i only found out earlier so i can trade something..... and the ladies from vancouver :) what are u gonna do with the paperclip???? illl trade u something for it....would u like a little groggy wallet and key holder... its new :)... its for coins.... and STILL DUDE that SICK.... if i only knew.... and dude... WOW..!!!!!! i bow to ur amazing skills...... and you mom bikes right??? in port moody the city of cycling WELL ROCK ON... im a mountain biker my self.. and people that live in port moody are really cool... i want to move in there... i currently work at west point cycles in kerisdale..in vancouver... and also the one on 10th and alma.... WEll if u need a new bike go to west point cycles... best place ever.. since back in the day of 1930's anyone enjoy biking? need a new one come find US!!! go to www.westpointcycles.com for more info on our locations..... and man you are amazing i bow to your smartness ... what a idea what a idea

MyTwoCents said...

Wow. The earlier items were "face value". Now you probably need contracts, lawyers, and research. The Hollywood thing might be a decent stepping stone, but needs some fast leg-work now. (Though it does seem to represent a shared-living arrangement). Did someone write that they would give you a houseboat in D.C.???
- Bonne Chance

Anonymous said...

Saw a house in the paper the other day. It was for free if you want the house I know where it is. It is in good condition.
AARON Darwin
Australia.

Brian said...

I think you should hook up with those vegan chicks and have a wild hot summer in LA!

Anonymous said...

Yep, no doubt about it: this is one amazing story. Just seen it
reported on TV here in Japan. I'd offer you my house in Tokyo
straight away...but then that would bring this fantastic adventure to an abrupt end. And I wouldn't want to be responsible for that. Keep going!
Tony in Tokyo

Anonymous said...

I have a cool blue paper clip for the AZ. place... sounds like the perfect trade to me!!

Nancy and Mike Mix100.7 said...

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IThinkHisTractor'sSexy said...

Found out bout your story in my Media Lit. class n I thought it was really awesome someone could go to those extents. I was readin through the posts and everyone is tryin to git ya to take one or the other. But who says you have to stick with whichever one ya trade for? Why couldn't ya just trade it off ta someone else who would want it and git somethin way better. Aint that what all this is bout?

Anonymous said...

ARRON, if the house is free the sensible thing to do is get it yourself and then offer it for the current trade!

Anonymous said...

Hustler of the year award goes to you! lol.

Although Hollywood is nice, I think that the commercial will get you a better trade personally.

Anonymous said...

Hi Kyle from Nova Scotia

We think that you should take the trip to California. It would be really cool. We think that other people would trade for the trip. And of course, the car is totally worth it.
We saw your adventure on the news and our teacher showed us online.
Good Luck and have fun!

Anonymous said...

Well Kyle, this some seriously good thinking on your part. Bravo!

On the offers so far, no need to say that the Hollywood summer is by far the best!!

I'm wondering what would get for you to get your own pad/house??

I'll be checkin to find out...!

best of luck mate,
Dimitris, UK

Anonymous said...

Just saw this on the news. I wouldn't even consider the lap dance,what would your girlfriend think and the house plans i would agree arent very good either. you'd still have to get the land and someone to build it. The LA apt may be nice but what will happen in three or four months? i say hold out for a better offer. with media coverage like this and all of the visits on this site, something better will come along. good luck and have fun trading

Anonymous said...

You have made the UK press now - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4918184.stm

Mike1877 said...

I think it is going to come down to the Hollywood deal or the House plans. Monatarily Hollywood Makes sence, but marketibility the Home Plans make sence. You have to remember since he is not actually going to use any of this stuff he has to think about what would be easier to trade for something better.

Although the monatary value he is at already is somewhere in the 20-30 thousand doller range. The house plans may take him a step backward or two.

This is such a wonderful idea!! I love it. This is definatly one of those ideas that you have to file in the "Hey! I shoulda thought of it!!"

Anonymous said...

Well The offers you have at the moment I would say the Holywood offer is the best.
You seem to be getting momentum in the UK certanly in the north of England, West Yorkshire Hope someone from around here can offer a decent trade.
Hope you pull it off and greetings from the Dalton Dynamoes Junior Football Club in Huddersfield. Check out our club site www.daltondynamoes.com and
The 606 Rebels who are dedicated Leeds United Fans http://s2.invisionfree.com/606_Rebels/index.php?showforum=202

All the Best from Stretch, AKA Kevin

Anonymous said...

The LA offer is the most tempting so far but I don't think it's worth a year rent-free. Something better will come along.

LR said the dancer was over-estimating her value. Well a lapdance at a typical club in Montreal was $10/song last time I checked. figure that Rachel, not being a local, would be considered exotic and thus command a higher price. Also factor in that a club that brings in talent from other countries is probably more upscale than average, which would also bring her price up, and her estimate is probably pretty accurate.

I'm not saying it's worth the trade, but for the folks who like to put a cash value on everything it shouldn't be undervalued either.

DR

Anonymous said...

dude, your my idol now, lol, but your goign to creat a monster, copy cats are gonna flood this nation, mabye some day i can trade a can of soda, for a porsche. you are the man, keep it up

Matthew Didier said...

You give me hope! :)
http://www.doubledeckerbuses.org/psican/blog.htm
There's always a chance, eh?

Ann said...

Dude, i think it was pretty observant of anonymous to note the bong in the picture of the LR of the LA apt. How did this dude afford a porsche and why is he going to England for the summer? Sounds like wayyy fun, but would really be a drag if the DEA came knockin' during your stay.

Anonymous said...

I can trade in a picture of me making believe Im being push of the Empire State Building.

Anonymous said...

Bravo! Ça prenait bien un québécois pour penser à ça.

I'd write you a hit song for that LA house, but material goods are always better, right?

Tell you what: if you manage to get that house, I'll write one anyway and dedicate it to you when I win a cheap grammy. This way the dream will never stop!

Bonne chance!

Snow Write said...

And so I've spent a couple hours reading about your adventures, Kyle. All I can say, is dayum wish I'd thought of it! I'm a single momma to six kids running a web development business.. I need a house too whimpers. If you get an "extra" house would you trade it for the following?

Our undying gratitude (might even involved some kissing of feet.. maybe)
Some lovingly used toys and books (we have the entire Harry Potter series)
A wooden letter opener with an elephant sculpted into it.. given to me after a clients recent trip to India (sorry client.. it is a house after all).
A Viewsonic Pocket PC with approx 100 mp3's of 80's music and two ebooks
My first born (he's 21 yo now.. strong boy.. maybe he can help out around the house?)
My second,third,fourth, fifth and sixth born (all girls.. though they might object mildly) - just think you could start your own girls punk rock band.. only you already traded the recording contract.. darnit.

Seriously, Kyle, brilliant idea and we all wish you the best of luck! Now I have to get back to work!!

KITZIA said...

I LOVE THE FIRST OFFER THE HOUSE IS FANTASTIC ALSO THE CAR HAHA I CAN OFFER A HOUSE IN VERACRUZ, MEXICO. 4 FLOORS HOUSE, 4 BEDROOMS, CALCONY IN 3 BEDROOMS, KITCHEN, DINNINGROOM, LIVINGROOM, A HUGE BALCONY, GARAGE FOR 2 CARS, GARDEN, 2 DOGS, ONE CAT, THIS JUST FOR 1 OR 2 MONTH, 45 MINUTES FOR THE BEACH, WHAT ELSE DO U WANT??

AG said...

Hey Kyle - Hollywood man - coz once you're there, you could get some hollywood figure to trade you a part in a movie or shit - something for which some poor waitress (read: aspiring actor) might give you something good for.

this is incredible man - rock on

Anonymous said...

All good things come to those who wait. Good luck!! "stuck in Indiana"

Anonymous said...

What imagination! If I were you I'd take that guy up on his offer of trading the year in AZ for his blue paper clip and start all over. What are you going to do when you finally get the house? Start over with a brown shoe string or something, you're having too much fun.

GOOD LUCK!!

Anonymous said...

Ok ok yes the place in Hollywood sounds nice…. But not nice enough one year rent vs 3-4 months even with the porsche its not worth it. Hold out for something better

Anonymous said...

Phoenix is an awesome, hapening city. Nothing yet posted is a good trade. Hollywood & the Porsche comes closest, but there are too many questions and the startup time is too immediate to make it a viable, actual 4 month deal. Wait for something better. I'm certain it is coming.
........ jPaulo

Thad (in the UK) said...

Just so that you know ... you have made the BBC! That is the big time!

Anyway, if the house boat is an option, I would go for it!

Cheers!

Anonymous said...

I was inspired by the whole trading thing, and started an experiment that is much the same thing, but starting with a penny. It is much smaller scale and the end goal is only extra credit in economics. (we have been talking about how a barter economy evolved into a money system.) As far as which you should take, take something that you can keep going with. Don't settle for anything less than your goal. I say don't take the stripper because if you do then you will lose the support of everyone who thinks that is immoral and wrong.

Anonymous said...

Just wondering, since the free rent for your apartment is only for a year, won't the value of it go down the longer it takes you to trade it?

Anonymous said...

KK this is wat i wanna say lolim from aus and i have been to phoenix and hollywood.And i have to say hollywood is way better than phoenix (soz to all the peeps from phoenix) but hey if i have a spare house to offa u i would trade for 3 months in hollywood.
Lol i heard bout this from my dad its heaps kool

Anonymous said...

TAKE THE HOLLYWOOD TRIP

spitfire007 said...

I just signed, this site seems very interesting !

spitfire007 said...

WoW

Anonymous said...

HI Kyle, Love your idea....wish i thought of it:) anyone want to trade with me :) Good luck buddy

Sal

Anonymous said...

Here's my recommendation. Trade for the summerhouse in Hollywood and put it up on ebay. You obviously can get good radio/tv publicity to jack up the price. You can probably even get on Leno or some other show with the perfect audience for you. Use the proceeds to buy the General Lee and whatever else would have good trade value. Good Luck.

Natasha said...

I just saw you on British morning TV. Clever idea. Go for the Hollywood deal :)-Natasha, Hampshire, Uk

Anonymous said...

What great idea saw you on the news this morning havnt anything to trade but good luck will be watching till you get that magic house,with the house prices here might do the same thing lol.

Graham London UK

Drew Purcell said...

Heard about your site and mission all the way down under in Australia.
This is an awesome effort, stay true to your cause.
HOLLYWOOD IS DEFINATELY THE KILLA OFFER
Will keep following the progress.

GOOD LUCK. Cheers

Anonymous said...

This one i printed out and placed it on the wall at the office

"If you say you're going to do something and you start to do it, people enjoy it or respect it or are entertained by it, people will step up and help you."
Kyle MacDonald


I really agree
Johan

Lisa Baier said...

Hey Kyle, The Hollywood thing sounds great but I think that you can do a lot better. I wish you the best of luck on your venture!

Anonymous said...

Just waiting for Golden Palace to intervene for the advertising kudos as they almost inevitably do in any internationally famous internet auction/site

The Blogger of Death
http://bloggerofdeath.livejournal.com/

Anonymous said...

Congrats! Looks like you'll make one fine business man someday! Hey, maybe someone (come on Bill Gates, you know you need someone with self promotion expertise)will offer you a great job! Good luck!

Anonymous said...

DON'T take the Hollywood offer... it's time limited, and a limited audience, I think you could hold out and trade with someone in Phoenix for something better. If you take the Hollywood deal, you might end up back to square one in three months time.

white rabbit said...

commercial: pppbbbbbbtttt
lap dance: unique, but that's it
house plans: too responsible and grown up
place in H-wood: a Porsche, a swimming pool, and breast augmentations up to your armpits . . . a weiner
(another silly opinion/keep up the good work/good luck)

Anonymous said...

Way to go.

Anonymous said...

I'd have to say FOR SURE, go with the LA thing...I agree that the truck doesn't look like an upgrade from the rent-a-house deal...Somebody will give you something BIG for that summer in LA with the Porshe...all the other deals are just ok...

Casey Pilgreen & Born South Band said...

I put in my trade hope to have it accepted. This was a cool idea. Remember everything is big in Texas.

Anonymous said...

Hey, saw you on the british morning show this morning, GMTV. Dude, I love what your doing. I only wish i had something of value to trade with then you could on up to Scotland. The farthest yet. Keep on going!

P.S. Those offers? dont pick any, there will be bigger and better ones to come, especially seeing as you were on one of britains top breakfast shows. You could be on your way to the British isles before you know it!!! - Alison Geissler, Dundee, Scotland

Anonymous said...

Consider this, for how long can you hold the Phoenix deal? So far the deal in LA is the best, but also comes with the time frame thing that makes it... less "tradable". I mean you can keep the house empty for too long or the year free rent will be changing to months free rent. The same will go to the LA department. with those you're forced to enjoy them and not hold for the next trade. Trade them for something you can hold over time, even if is of less value in money, because that way you can hold until you get to your home.

Any way, Good luck, From Venezuela...

Anonymous said...

sexy dance is better than nothing. accept that.mmmmmmmmmmmm

Anonymous said...

i saw you on english tv this morning, i think its a great idea and hope you get your dream house. good luck

Anonymous said...

I would definitely avoid the house plans. As expensive as they may be, its nowhere near a year's rent anywhere, unless the house planned is some million-dollar mansion. And if someone was wanting a huge mansion, they probably aren't going to nit-pick about getting a free house plan at the cost of giving away something "better". That seems like a dead-end to me, or at best a big step backwards.

Obviously you're not going to take the LA place, because your not going to find someone to take it from you for something decidedly better within the time-frame.

I dunno if you'll get your house out of this, but I think you could definitely get some physical land if you get lucky, then just start a new one. Trade up a green paperclip for a house worth of wood, a yellow one for a house worth of concrete, a purple one for one house worth of labour (which I might be able to get for you if an offer is right), and so on. Heck, I'm sure you could get those volunteer groups that build lost-cost housing if you could get someone to trade for a decently sized donation to the cause :P.

Good luck, we're all rooting for you.

Anonymous said...

Since the guy in hollywood said he would leave you with supplies before he leaves, does that include the neccesities to make the bong work too?

Anticement said...

Dude, what ever it is you end up with...I think you got more then you ever imagined....lol

good for you!
roll with it...don't let it roll you over....

Suaman(swa-man)

Anonymous said...

Hi Saw you on the morning news here in England today and thought it all sounded like a great idea. I am afraid I don't have an offer for you but I wish you well and will watch out for the next trade with interest. (I think the next offer has to be a bit more than a lapdance though!).

Anonymous said...

House pans? U kidding me? Any unlicensed hack can whip a set off Autocad for cheap cheap cheap. Low resale (re-trade) value. Fuhgeddaboutit.

steve wesson said...

hi this is steve from nottingham uk take the holiday and the porch its raining in london stay were you are and have fun i have a green paper clip if you want to swap
all the best steve

Anonymous said...

Saw you on GMTV this morning. Glad to see that not all American's are up to speed with Hollywood and its way of doing things, and are more unassuming and natural.
PS Isn't Andrew Castle very sexy?

Anonymous said...

The Phoenix house is in a bad part of town unfortunately. The only offer worthwhile right now is the 4 months in Hollywood with a porsche. It's better but not by much.... can you get more offers???

Anonymous said...

hollywood is the best deal. house plans is getting closer to your goal, but it isn't a house. just the plans for one. you'd still have to pay someone to build it for you. a summer in hollywood with a porsche would definitely bring in some amazing offers. it isn't as long a stay as arizona, but the living experience in la trumps arizona easily.

Anonymous said...

yo find me a Jimmy Hoffa and ill find ya a Tupac... lol. good luck and safe journeys man. i look forward to reading your book if you decide to write one when your done, you gotta have some road stories to tell.

Anonymous said...

OK! I'm a principal of an architectural firm and licensed in 6 states and let me tell you about the offer of the house plans. A lot of "drafters" tend to think they are architects and it would be a pretty bad move to even trust that offer... just because you work for a firm does not make you an architect. You really need to look at his/her portfolio... And also just because you're a licensed architect does not mean you know what the hell you're doing... EVEN IF you had a licensed architect design you a house...you still need Electrical Engineering, Mechanical Engineering, Structural Engineering, Civil Engineering...

So that person needs to feed his/her B.S. elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

this project is the bee's knees! nice going. somebody mathematical should graph your trades, as there's some nifty exponential or squaring of value going on at certain points. (if you set the clip equal to y, and raise it to the power of x, which is the eventual # of trades to get to the house...). :)
Anyhow, thanks for sharing the fun! I agree w/ some of the others who suggest you hold out for an additional offer. the houseboat sounds intriguing!

Cheers!

Martin Kaiser-Nielsen said...

Hey there

Don't go for anything yet, wait it out, the L.A. thing is a greath deal, but it starts in 2 days time, not enough for anyone to plan anything, like many others i'd say wait a bit, something big comes is around the corner !!

All the respect, you are a real pioneer !!!

Martin Kaiser-Nielsen
Tuk Tours - Thailand
Yes you are alle the way over here too !!

Brenda said...

I own the shell of a 2 level condo unit, 1-West (2,228 sq. ft., 3 BDRMS, 3 BTHRMS, LR, DR, KT) located in Chicago just a 10 minute drive from Oprah Winfrey's Harpo studio, the Chicago Bull's United Center, and downtown Chicago (the Loop). This condo, which is 1 of 4 units at Dahomey Condominiums is in the pre-construction phase. If Kyle had an offer from a general contractor to complete the construction (material and labor) on 2 of the 4 units, I would trade unit 1-West, market value of $369,900, for the contractor's offer. Good luck Kyle!

Claus Agerskov said...

Take the Hollywood apartment for 3 or 4 months with the Porche
You don't have to live there but it is as far as I can see an even better trading product than the one year in Phoenix.

Take it - and there will be a much better offer for you on that than on the one year. Hollywood is a dream for many - Phoenix only for a few.

Anonymous said...

From Melbourne, Australia.
I wish you all the luck in the world... God knows all the world is watching...
You will get your house.
Cheers!!!

Anonymous said...

Cool site. I don't have anything intresting to trade, but you can have my sister for free if you want. Maybe you can trade her for another paperclip.

Anonymous said...

Cool site. Shame i didnt hear about it earlier. I could do with a red paperclip

Pollux said...

This is so cool. The only reason I won't steal the idea is that it wouldn't be original. Why did I not think of this. Not for the treasure, but for the fun and to show it is possible. Cool cool cool. Here's an idea. You could take it to a higher level. Go on till you got something a million dollars worth and then donate it to some charity origanisation. (or half of it) Maybe then create an organisation of people who do the same and end up in the history books.

Anonymous said...

Absolutely amazing and entertaining! You should try to get on that Apprentice show with Donald Trump. Ha!

Anonymous said...

g'day mate it's noel here from down under currently in the u.k. would love the house and the porsche... i'll swap ya a white paper clip

Anonymous said...

i think u should wait till u get something better, if u take the obvious best choice(the summer in hollywood) you couldnt trade it for what u really want or even anything else cause the guy will want to move back in bfore u can trade it. so wait for a good deal.

Anonymous said...

Yo dude, trade for that summer in Hollywood, then trade that Hollywood package to some hard up actor/actress for something sweet. L.A.'s the place where dreams happen. And it will get you closer to your dream. Hey, I'll trade you my house in Ontario, California for ummm $400,000. Go baby go! - Jody -

Caro said...

Since the Hollywood offer is ending in 2 days, what are you going to do?

Also a note: Check on local building codes. In Alberta an architect doesn't have to stamp your house drawings. You can turn in plans that anyone has drawn.

Carly said...

I'd say keep on holding out. all of these things are ok, but you have a house with a year worth of free rent! that is so much better then a 24 hour lapdance. the best is probably the L.A. thing, but your time could run out real fast there, but i'm sure you've alredy though of that. good luck!

Jeroen said...

Darn, if I saw this earlier and when I had something good to trade ya, I would've gone for the LA deal... then again, maybe it's better that I'm not able to do this as I would most likely drive myself to death in that car... somehow I have a thing with fast driving -_-

Anyways, I love this idea.. I wish you good luck with your tradings, I hope you will get your house soon!

Best of luck from the Netherlands!

Anonymous said...

Hi Kyle,

Been following ur trades for the past 2 months now and I tell all my friends about ur site. What a truly wonderful idea!

Good luck!

J (Kuching, Malaysia)

Anonymous said...

What's they guy in LA do for a living? It looks almost like the set of Deuce Biggalow! As for the car... yep! It's a hack job! And how does the stipper go for 24 hours? Sounds like a crackhead. Keep looking for a better trade!

COOPER - Birmingham, England, UK said...

Does the house have a snooker table and a pool table? if it doesn't tell him to get real! if it does, then take the offer, its a good-en.

Jays ride is possibly the worst thing ever invented, and i mean ever, not just cars, but out of every single thing ever invented, that thing is the WORST!

Anonymous said...

LMAO @Cooper's comment about jay's ride!! There IS that nice bong in the hollywood gigolo pad to take into consideration...

-*Žó§ò*

Jenn said...

WOW! I heard about this on the news, and couldn't believe it would work. Then they said it already was, so I checked out the site, and all I have to say is ROCK ON!!! It's a crazy idea, and kudos on making it work!!! Good Luck!!! I can't wait to see the house you end up with!!!

bulent said...

Keep up the good work! Yot are getting famous here also in the netherlands.

Anonymous said...

seriously, how do people come up with ideas like that? that's insane! good luck on getting the house; i know you said you don't care where it's at, but you've got to have some preference, right?

Anonymous said...

Looks like you're running out of time on the LA deal--he leaves in 2 days!

Anonymous said...

Since the 'summer in LA' starts tomorrow, I dunno how quickly you can move on it, but I wouldn't be surprised if you took it, came down here, and showed the right kind of people around, you'd get something VERY valuable for it. Go for it man -- it gets less valuable every day you wait.

Anonymous said...

Take the pad and the porsche in L.A.!!!

Mandy from NH said...

Take the Hollywood (ounce in a life time oppt Time is a ticking)

Anonymous said...

Although the offer in LA seems really cool, I wouldn't take it. The house plan thing is a joke too. I mean, you're trying to get the house and they know that you'd have to trade up from the plans to get to the house so they wouldn't be yours anyway. Someone needs to offer a legitimate item. Maybe a REAL car or truck and not some wholesale piece like the stupid blazer.
As for all of the comments, you need to keep in mind that we all wish we were in your shoes and weren't ever able to come up with this idea. Your creative and business traits are probably off the charts. You should look at taking this thing to another - side level. Maybe something like a book about your experience, a side website about cool ideas like this one, or like EBAY, etc.

I could even see a TV show about this similar to the inventor show. It's amazing how some people don't think through their ideas. Your format and execution is flawless!

Have a great time getting your house. You deserve it.

Someone should give you a Masters in Business.

Anonymous said...

By far, the best offer is the 3 months in Hollywood with the use of the porche. However, this only makes sense if you have a reasonable trade offer lined up. After all, you don't want to use the offer, you want to trade it for something more valuable. The dates of the offer are probably not negotiable, (the owner will take their vacation on their own schedule and not wait for you to find a trader to use the time.)

The plans for a house might have real value, if the designer is willing to work with someone besides you (whoever you trade it the plans to.)

Right now both seem like you need to have a trade lined up for, or you could end up with a item that ends your trade-up plans.

Allison said...

GOOD LUCK!! This idea is really creative, I hope everything works out for you. If your in the area, stop on in to Houston,Texas and trade-up, you never know, you might end up with a whole ranch! There's PLENTY opportunities to trade!

Anonymous said...

I think youshould hold out for a years rent in NYC, or a cottage on Martha's Vineyard. Those people have money too. Hold out.

Anonymous said...

i will trade you my red paperclip for the house

Anonymous said...

The hollywood guy leaves tomorrow so that isn't going to work for a trade now. People are being too hard on the dancer. she says 288 sessions = 24hrs. I'm sure you could ask for 288 different sessions because most people can't stay awake and fully function for 24 straight hours not to mention she'd need a bathroom break. The house plans seem cool but what if they end up sucking and then no one wants them and the "stamp" issue seems fishy. Maybe some retired people will have a houseboat that they'll trade for a year in Phoenix. Good Luck and I hope all the publicity doesn't kill your dreams.

Anonymous said...

Jay needs to get a better way to spend his money because that ride is junk. The stripper has got to go b/c of your own relationship, besides 24 hrs of no touching...get real! The commercial is out so that's that. I'm not even going to comment on the old timer whatever that thing is. Your best bet is the Hollywood deal. Not because of all of the riches that come along with it, but this is a profitable means towards your house. This is Hollywood. This is where people try to make their dreams come true. This will give you the most lucrative offer for your next adventure.

Heather said...

Brenda's Chicago condo offer is a good one and should be up in the offers section. Find out exactly where her property is located and get an independent appraisal free from a real estate agent or internet listings.

Brenda - if there are 4 units, could one be offered to the builder in exchange for finishing your 2 and Kyle's one?

It's a slightly complex deal, but a condo in a hot urban market could easily be traded for a rural house or one in the burbs.

Heather

Anonymous said...

Not having a stamp on the plans means that the plans can't technically be built. So, in order for the plans to be of any use, someone would need to pass the plans through the city/state where the house was going to be built and then these plans would need to get approved (and stamped) all of this costs money . . . so it is something to keep in mind when consdiering the house plans. I know that the uncertified architect is much cheaper then an architect that can stamp plans . . . also something to consider when looking to "trade up"

Anonymous said...

None are good, keep the apartment. I think I did read about someone offering a house in one of the comments though. Perhaps you should look into that.

Lea said...

how do you know which deals are serious?Sum sound2GD2 be true. but i guess u got this far. the person with the beer IOU got his beer? what would happen if they refuse to give him his beer? i'm a law student, he might not be able to sue and recover.=(

Josefina said...

Hi, I'm from Chile, and I got to your page through www.msn.com where they talked about you.
I just wrote to one of Chile's bigger newspapers as for them to write an article about you, and then maybe you can get interesting offers from chileans!
I don't have anything I can offer to you, but anyway, I think the house plans are a great trade, but maybe you should wait a little longer, you're so close, so a few more days can't hurt!
Good luck!

Anonymous said...

The architect that is licensed in 6 states is full of cr*p! You don't need to hire Mechanical, Electrical and Civil Engineers to design a house. Unless, you don't know what the heck you're doing with those trades.
Time is ticking on the Hollywood Deal. Have you thought of sub-leasing the phoenix property to get some liquid cash out of the deal?

John R said...

Hey, I have been following your story for several weeks now, but I just heard from a friend in Illinois about the brand expansion trade offer. I havent seen it up on your offers yet, but it sounds like a killer trade.

I vote for the brand expansion trade!

You can check out the trade on bruce clarks blog at
http://bruceclark.brandexpansion.com

-j from CHicago

AtheneBelle said...

The ride looks a mess and probably costs a lot with the gas what it is. As the apartment has a time limit that expires today (4/22) then it's out of the question. The house plan might have been viable if it had a stamp of approval (or whatever makes it acceptable) and the lap-a-thon is getting into the wrong kind of bartering. I'd say hold on to it for now. I think you'll definitely find something better.

Anonymous said...

Hi Kyle,

Way to go! You certainly have traded up the food chain a long way. What I do not understand is how you have kept yourself in some form of a home (and food and clothes, and ...) while you have worked toward your ultimate one. Are you a trust fund kid?

My addition to your quest is this: Start working backwards from the ultimate goal, the house. You could ask psople with houses to post what they would trade them for (actually you are starting to get posts like this already in that Chicago condo deal). Ideally you could build an "online map" (gant chart?) of the path from 1-year lease to the ultimate plan.

Myself, I have a hard time imagining the last few trades that will lead to a satisfactory home for you. And I would like to see more about what that home would be (location, size, condition, ...) Unless you simply plan to trade it away as well, the home will need to be somewhere you work, where you can afford the taxes and upkeep, etc. Most people with a substantial home are going to need a real big trade for it, unless it is more of a charitable donation. For instance, I have a home for sale right now. To trade it away, I would need to pay off the mortgage ($200K+) and get something in addition I valued more highly than the equity ($75K+). Would you be willing to build the home (if you ended up trading for the materials and land at some point)? Maybe there is a way for some people to pool resources that help you. For instance I have expertise, tools, some materials, etc. but have not seen anything yet that I would want to trade for. Maybe there is another way that people like me can enter your "market". Could the single thread of your trades somehow branch off into multiple threads that will avoid the need to eat the entire house in one bite so to speak. I hope there is something in here that is helpful. Jeff McCabe, Ann Arbor.

Anonymous said...

i saw you on the news!!! you dont need
a commercial now i am only here cause the news hang on!!

MyTwoCents said...

SPLIT YOUR TRADE. Like a stock. Theoretically this would:
1. Multiply your chance of success.
2. Allow you to diversify your total risk (for example you could have a novel higher-risk and also a more conservative trade lineage)
3. Allow a small group of people to pool their resources for a multi-item or shared trade. Thus opening up a larger trading pool.
4. You may ultimately "piece" together your dream house (land, materials, contractor, etc..)
5. Smaller trades could help sustain/provide resources for the big trades.
It would also be "fair" since all would have come from the paper clip! I hope you consider it - good luck!

Anonymous said...

The dude who said to split it may be on to something. You could do 6 months rent in Phoenix or maybe even two weeks or a month at a time - like a time share. You could even get more for the winter months.

I think what you are doing is unbelievable. Good luck man.

Anonymous said...

Hi!, i'm from Mexico and i know of you because your story appeared on the newspaper. Well, i only like to say that for me the best trade it's for the Summer in Hollywood. GOOD LUCK!!!!!!

Chris said...

since you are in the realms of big city lights in AZ and there are a few casinos down that neck of the woods --- wouldnt it be interesting if one of them came to the party with 12 months worth of free shows in their cabaret rooms for two people

that way you can uptrade that to another phycial asset item such as a boat more easily

Anonymous said...

Genius! I saw your story which was recently featured on out local evenibng news! Best of luck....And hey! Hold out for bigger and better offers - you can do waaaaaay better than a almost-but-not-quite-pimped-out ride or the overpriced stripper chick. The LA offer indeed is eye grabbing and tempting but c'm on A YEAR (yes it's in Phoenix - but nonetheless its for a YEAR!) vs 3 months. Is that really a thought provoking dilemma?

kutz said...

Isn't the Hollywood deal due ? This guy must be in England by now.Without much thought, it seemed like the best deal. Now you're left with not much. Wait for new proposals but don't let people forget about you, seek for as much radio an tv interviews as you can. I think this is a crucial moment in your plan, like the one when you traded the instant party for the snowmobile. I think if you pull this one off, you'll be on your way to getting a house. Good Luck!!!

MyTwoCents said...

Another word about SPLIT YOUR TRADE: I was rather general in my previous post because there are so many possibilities. Some specifics:
A. As someone mentioned, you could split the current trade by trading "time shares" of it. Sometimes an asset has greater intrinsic value just by partitioning it.
B. Or you could ask to trade for two items (or more) of combined equal or bigger or better value.
C. I also meant to imply the possibility of running several trade "threads" simultaneously, as another commenter mentioned.
D. Sometimes grouping items creates greater value. So in the future you could regroup several items into a single trade package.

Anonymous said...

Jay; hold out for your ultimate dream. I'm sure you will make it.
Markham, Canada

Anonymous said...

Who in their right mind would want a stripper/whore? Said no touching from the "client" sp that means she can do all the touching she wants. And who is going to pay for her go get to whomever buys her & her return trip? And how do you know she is really a she? Need I say more?

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